Nope, no woosh, and not so much cherry picking rather not wanting to post a quote mountain when that point was a good jumping off point for a reply.Īgain, do I need to remind you I was a Muslim? And it doesn't take any imagination what so ever to see where the Pulse Nightclub shooter got his ideas. But that fucking Islamic Center in Florida is a den of fucking evil from all outward appearances if you ask me. aside from the body count he eventually left behind. But his religious community found nothing out of the ordinary what so ever. Everyone who worked with this guy claimed he was an unhinged, hateful, violent psycho. The guy sold his house for $1 to his sister. But the Muslim religious center just said they invite "all views".Īnd what's worse, the guys wife was helping him buy ammo and case places. There was a local news report about how they couldn't believe that was a thing that was allowed, and it was clearly inciting violence. Because just weeks before they had invited an Iranian hate preacher to come talk about how it's actually compassionate to kill all the gays. Man, the gay bar shooting really riled me about Islam though. Tantamount to the now overused "Think of the children". Using the victim's of the airport massacre as a way to legitimize your argument is pretty damn low. If some nut out there starts murdering people and happens to be Christian you don't punish every Christian out there for it, do you? Stop victim blaming Ars.Īctually in all the scenarios you describe the only correct way to go about it would be to blame any person who commits a crime by his own name and prosecute/punish him accordingly to the severity of the crime rather than merely blaming calling out his particular religion. Sure most of us were not, yet, affected by Islamic actions - but we can and should imagine being in that French airport next to the bomber and sympathize with the victims - not the terrorists. If a Muslim stabs a bunch of people in a mall do you blame those injured? If a Muslim enters a gay bar, do you blame the gay bar for being a hate group? That's not at all exclusive to Islam, and one of the main reasons you see so much Islamic fundamentalism as compared to, say, Christian fundamentalism is because so many Muslims are living in absolutely abhorrent conditions.įocusing on Islamic fundamentalism is focusing on a symptom in a way that makes the underlying problem much, much worse.
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The point is that social and political situations create an adherence to the religion that's stringent enough to make people willing to enforce those aspects. Just a hint to get you started: the point is not that the religion creates social and political situations that make people more willing to enforce its worst aspects. You probably should have read my entire post instead of cherry-picking a single quote, because. This runs counter to our idea of a western liberal democracy. This is what many people seem to be ignorant of, wilfully or otherwise - at it's heart, Islam is a doctrine for a particular kind of societal construct, i.e. More broadly, you'll generally find that religious fundamentalism like that tends to be tied to social and political situations rather than religious ones.Īnd that my friend, is precisely why people rally against Political Islamism, because we absolutely do not want it taking a foothold in our social and political spheres.